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nelson mandela when he visited the clinton white house for a state viz in it 1994. it was his second trip to the united states and his first as south africa's first black president. like so many, i was personally inspired by madiba to believe in the possibility for positive change through collective action. having been a part of apartheid protests in high school and college, to see him standing there shaking my hand was almost overwhelming. from what seemed a hopeless imprisonment to his release and then to the presidency of his country. joining me now, dr. mary francis barry founder of the free south africa movement and michael sculnic. thanks to you both for joining me. it's great to have you here. >> thanks for having me. >> dr. barry, i want to start with you because i was reading a snippet from an interview you gave where you were talking about literally the day that president mandela was released and you met -- saw him and met him in capetown. can you tell us about that? >> right. i had gone to capetown with others who had been in the free south africa movement, and we persuaded the
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